tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8978494.post5498043947681220841..comments2024-03-20T13:16:46.267-04:00Comments on Bob Hurt: Joel McNair, Model Black Man faudulently arrested for homeless-family ministryBob Hurthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16221056626998989868noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8978494.post-44652079821800995922011-06-04T15:05:28.400-04:002011-06-04T15:05:28.400-04:00Edward, I'd like more details about the fraud....Edward, I'd like more details about the fraud. Regardless of a man's errors in life, a man can still do the world around him a lot of good, and Joel did that through his adverse possession enterprise. Give the man credit where credit is due. Oh, by the way, he did 4 years of a 25 year sentence because of being a model prisoner. Several have told me the charges in that case were bogus. If the Sarasota County charges of grand theft and scheme to defraud (actually for adverse possession) serve as an example of fraudulent charges, then I imagine his conviction 25 years ago was fraudulent as well. I consider it the realty equivalent of getting a speeding ticket for "driving while black."Bob Hurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16221056626998989868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8978494.post-42927306094838360342011-06-03T19:32:22.303-04:002011-06-03T19:32:22.303-04:00Joel McNair never held a real estate license, as d...Joel McNair never held a real estate license, as disclosed to me during his deposition regarding fraud charges brought by my company. This is only 1 of your many mistruths stated in your letter. <br /><br />Joel was a thief! Plain and simple! He defrauded my company out of 90k, did time for racketeering and made a life out of breaking the law. I feel for his sons (rest in peace Mikey), Deb and all the other victims he left behind. As for Joel, he has truly gone gone from the frying pan and into the fire!!!!Edwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03538110158977731606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8978494.post-34983725293301326132011-04-04T13:32:49.130-04:002011-04-04T13:32:49.130-04:00The problem with your argument is that there must ...The problem with your argument is that there must be SEVEN (7) YEARS of open, continuous, actual possession, hostile to all who would challenge such possession. In none of the cases to which you refer, has 7 years of adverse possession occurred. Once the owner finds out about the attempt to adversely possess his property, he has the right to remove the squatter from his property by all legal means, including bringing criminal charges against the squatter and anyone who assisted the squatter in attempting to steal the property. <br /><br />Further, the law requires that the squatter do some other things regarding the property during the SEVEN YEARS that he squatting on the property. In order to succeed, the squatter must strictly comply with the law and must prove his case by clear and convincing evidence, if challenged in court. Physically breaking into a house that does not belong to you, without the permission of the owner, is a crime in this state, no matter what your "noble" intentions are. <br /><br />"Abandoned" property is a problem. However, there are other ways to help people occupy "vacant" property that do not entail committing a burglary and theft. Those who commit crimes must be charged, and, if convicted, must be punished. That is what our civil society and the Rule of Law require. Your position supports lawlessness. <br /><br />Your moral support of Mr. McNair completely ignores the immorality of taking something that does not belong to you just because you feel entitled to it. You are completely disregarding the interests of the owner, the mortgage company, and others. Your support of the moral rights of the neighbors and those who need a home does not trump the moral and legal rights of the owner and the mortgage company.<br /><br />Unless Mr. McNair and his clients fully comply with the law, the owner, the mortgage company and the state are morally and legally within their rights to pursue this matter in the manner in which it has been done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8978494.post-80457222196640867282011-03-20T03:42:23.060-04:002011-03-20T03:42:23.060-04:00I wouldn't mind at all if I had abandoned the ...I wouldn't mind at all if I had abandoned the property. Did you read the news today? The Census Bureau reported that Florida homeowners have ABANDONED 1.6 million (18%) of Florida's houses. That means 1.6 million families have to live somewhere else, like with relatives,in sleazy motels, in shelters, in tents, in campers. And that has exposed the kids and others in the families to excessive danger. How do you think society will solve that problem if not through adverse possession.<br /><br />Get it through your head: A person who abandons the house exposes the neighborhood to danger from thugs, vandals, and drug dealers, exposes the house to deterioration, and wastes his own money on other lodging. The HOMEOWNER makes HIMSELF the culprit in this scenario. The Adverse Possessor becomes the Knight in Shining Armor, the HERO who puts the realty to a higher, better use, helping the house, the community the new occupant, AND THE HOMEOWNER.Bob Hurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16221056626998989868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8978494.post-20625134147667179122011-03-19T18:53:13.875-05:002011-03-19T18:53:13.875-05:00You do realize that this man is using other people...You do realize that this man is using other peoples house to "BE HELPING TO THE SOCIETY" right. Not everyone might be leaving their home they might be trying to get the house back but because of people like him they are cheated and he should be punished. HOW WOULD U FEEL IF SOMEONE DID THIS TO U?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com